Monday, April 30, 2007

Audio from CAIR's meeting on 6 Imams

from Vigilant Freedom/910 Group Blog

It’s all about the numbers in the victimhood bullying game.

And Nihad Awad, executive director of CAIR, has problems getting the numbers he needs to prove that Muslims are subject to unusual discrimination. This could be a real embarrassment for Awad, because if Muslims are actually doing well in the U.S., maybe they don’t need CAIR.

1. First speech by Nihad Awad

There were 196 cases reported by the Justice Department for Muslims in civil rights cases. There were over 1008 cases reported by the Jewish faith. We need to do a much better job not only in recognizing our civil rights but also in reporting it to the government. Which is very critical and very important.

Hmmm, Jews being victimized 5 times for each Muslim victim... Yep. Jews have been victims for thousands of years.

…It is very important for Muslims to understand the law, and it’s also very important for Muslims to exercise their legal rights in the country. And it’s also important that if these rights are violated, that Muslims recognize that these rights are violated. Many Muslims,they are discriminated against or mistreated, they overlook or ignore or they are afraid to say or challenge or report these mistreatments. Which means, more of the same will take place against the same person or persons or against Muslims. And when people stand up and say something and challenge them, then there will be change.

True enough

But the psyche of Muslims have to change. The laws are there, fortunately, but the laws are not utilized. They’re not understood and they’re not followed by the victimizers or the victims. So there’s a lot of ignorance about the law, and that’s why Muslims usually find themselves being mistreated or discriminated against. Reporting to an organization like CAIR is important, because it is empowering.

Victimizers? Who are Victimizers? Are these the Muslims who attack others?

The Department of
Justice, in their annual report, don’t be surprised that if you feel
Muslims are not treated well in the country, that the number of reports
of incidents against Muslims or hate crimes is very low. Whereas the
number of incidents and hate crime cases against the Jewish community
is very very high. Maybe dozens of [incidents] against Muslims, but
against Jews are in the thousands. But when you examine the situation
you say, We really feel our community is more targeted. 54% - this is
one of CAIR’s surveys - 54% of all Muslims surveyed said they had been
subject to discrimination.

54% of who. Just exactly who did CAIR survey? There own membership - their leadership, just exactly who did they survey? And what questions were asked in this survey? How were the questions worded? Were they all leading questions? Did this include discrimination by Muslims against Muslims?

From the Questions  after his speeches:

are two levels. Imams are going after those who caused this for them,
the particular incident. The imams also have the right to sue the media
if the media misrepresented them and that misrepresentation caused them
harm. So this is almost like first draft. There could be second and
third draft. There’s a statute of limitation for Defamation of one
year. So until November 20, 2007 they have the right to sue any party
who misrepresented them or defamed them.

But the laws of
defamation in the United States are much more difficult. The most
difficult laws. You can say almost whatever you want in this country.
Unlike Europe and Canada, where there are strict, tough defamation
laws. If you accuse someone, if you say something about some people,
you can be sued, you can go to jail or you can be fined. In the United
States, people use free speech, the First Amendment, to justify a lot
of what they say.
But there’s a limit.And I think there are many
lawyers who are looking into this. But the main focus on the imams now
is to have legal recourse against those who caused them [immediate]
harm, they were rejected, they were mistreated, they were [arrested]
and they were denied service.”

Sounds like he don't like the First Amendment.

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